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Old 04-15-2010, 09:15 PM
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In 1842, a ship struck an iceberg and more than 30 survivors were crowded into a lifeboat intended to hold 7. As a storm threatened, it became obvious that the lifeboat would have to be lightened if anyone were to survive. The captain reasoned that the right thing to do in this situation was to force some individuals to go over the side and drown. Such an action, he reasoned, was not unjust to those thrown overboard, for they would have drowned anyway. If he did nothing, however, he would be responsible for the deaths of those whom he could have saved. Some people opposed the captain's decision. They claimed that if nothing were done and everyone died as a result, no one would be responsible for these deaths. On the other hand, if the captain attempted to save some, he could do so only by killing others and their deaths would be his responsibility; this would be worse than doing nothing and letting all die. The captain rejected this reasoning. Since the only possibility for rescue required great efforts of rowing, the captain decided that the weakest would have to be sacrificed. In this situation it would be absurd, he thought, to decide by drawing lots who should be thrown overboard. As it turned out, after days of hard rowing, the survivors were rescued and the captain was tried for his action. If you had been on the jury, how would you have decided?

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Old 04-15-2010, 09:27 PM
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In 1842, a ship struck an iceberg and more than 30 survivors were crowded into a lifeboat intended to hold 7. As a storm threatened, it became obvious that the lifeboat would have to be lightened if anyone were to survive. The captain reasoned that the right thing to do in this situation was to force some individuals to go over the side and drown. Such an action, he reasoned, was not unjust to those thrown overboard, for they would have drowned anyway. If he did nothing, however, he would be responsible for the deaths of those whom he could have saved. Some people opposed the captain's decision. They claimed that if nothing were done and everyone died as a result, no one would be responsible for these deaths. On the other hand, if the captain attempted to save some, he could do so only by killing others and their deaths would be his responsibility; this would be worse than doing nothing and letting all die. The captain rejected this reasoning. Since the only possibility for rescue required great efforts of rowing, the captain decided that the weakest would have to be sacrificed. In this situation it would be absurd, he thought, to decide by drawing lots who should be thrown overboard. As it turned out, after days of hard rowing, the survivors were rescued and the captain was tried for his action. If you had been on the jury, how would you have decided?

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.... if it was say, a cruise ship, i'd take any crew and myself and jump overboard, leaving the passengers to live.

if it was like, a crab fishing ship or something, i'd tell everyone the situation and ask for volunteers, then those who have little/no family would go next, then those with the least likeliness to live. those will illnesses or who are wounded severely from the crash.
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:32 PM
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.... if it was say, a cruise ship, i'd take any crew and myself and jump overboard, leaving the passengers to live.

if it was like, a crab fishing ship or something, i'd tell everyone the situation and ask for volunteers, then those who have little/no family would go next, then those with the least likeliness to live. those will illnesses or who are wounded severely from the crash.
It's not what you'd do, it's how you'd decide if the captain was guilty or not guilty of trying to kill his passengers.
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:42 PM
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People are stupid.

"Kill one to save a thousand"

Wouldn't you do the same?
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Captian should have been found innocent. His idea was smart.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:07 PM
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in that case, guilty but unpunished. he doesnt deserve to be prosecuted, but i doubt he handled it the best he could've.
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To be honest, he was just trying to save his own butt.
He came up with the idea yes, but if saving oh so many people was important, he should have been one of those to drown.
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People are stupid.

"Kill one to save a thousand"

Wouldn't you do the same?
Kill Taliban Man, save Skittles, FistBump, Kath, Chad.c, Almoglo, Dforce, excl, G.O.M., jaykit, luis, MattE and ShadowMario?
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:53 PM
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Aren't you talking about the Titanic except with a different year?
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